Share Tweet Pin Plus LinkedIn Reddit StumbleUpon Digg Email Print In this ongoing story surrounding cattle rancher Cliven Bundy, there are a series of questions media has ignored. For instance, in the 20 years Bundy hasn’t been paying his fees, why hasn’t he been taken to court? Why this year, spend nearly $1,000,000 of taxpayer […]
This country and its people have gone completely mad. The after math of the Occupy Malhuer refuge and the aftermath of the occupy wall street are very, very different but yet the same in many ways. Just depends on what side you are on. If you are on the rich wealthy cushy side of things the attitude is very elite. If you are on the poor side of things the attitude is indignant. If you are in between and you see the big picture and all facets of the issue you are then a patriot and a combatant to the state, a domestic terrorist, someone who incites violence.
Lets look at a few interesting parallels. This……..
was applauded as a wonderful, marvelous, spectacular protest. Main stream media followed the protest and blowin” in the wind of ratings. One day it was good. One day it was bad for the country. One day it was appropriate for the world to see.
was vilified as a terroristic act against the american people. As a matter of fact all of the main protestors are in jail and will probably never see the light of day if the FBI has anything to say about it.
The main issues raised by Occupy Wall Street were social and economic inequality, greed, corruption and the perceived undue influence of corporations on government—particularly from the financial services sector.
The Occupation of the Malheur Refuge wants the Hammonds to be released and for the federal government to relinquish control of the Malheur National Forest. On January 3, Ammon Bundy said the ultimate goal of the militants was to “get the economics here in the county revived” for logging and outdoor recreation.
The Occupy Wall street bunch were a bunch of young ideological young people who have no work prospects and have huge school loans and have no way to pay for them. The Occupy Wall street received donations from George Soros. They brought their tents and occupied a park in New York city. A privately owned public open space. The occupation took 59 days. Bankrupted businesses disrupted civil families living in the immediate area. The owners of this park had the absolute legal right to arrest every protestor in the movement who chose to pillage and plunder this park. It is well-known that after the occupation the cleanup cost the tax payers many, many thousands of dollars to clean up the park from litter to feces. The occupiers were lying around doing drugs, drinking into inebriation, raping women in the tents, urinating in doorways of private businesses, sh*tting on the sidewalks and other areas in the park. Condoms found in the litter everywhere, used drug needles and other drug paraphernalia. Playing music and disrupting people living and doing business in the region of the park. Three people were brought to court, yet all three cases were thrown out of court. There was no real goal set forth or demanded by the occupiers. The ultimate message that was sent is the young are disenfranchised people. Cleanup was not an evidence gathering endeavor. People were not arrested for domestic terrorism. No one was killed by a federal agent.
The Occupy Malhuer refuge were a bunch of well-mannered family oriented people. They were a bunch of people who believe in the constitution and the rights that are given to us by our bill of rights. They chose a building that was abandoned for the winter. The land was owned by “the people” of the united States of America. They funded themselves, yes asking for donations to support them. They ate in local restaurants raising the income of the locals. Burns Oregon business owners prospered financially from the occupation (during an otherwise lean time for these businesses). The occupiers spent their days cleaning and straightening up the buildings of the refuge. They also spent their time discussing with officials and the locals what their goal was. The message that was loud and clear for a 42 day occupation were 2 messages one; the government land grab and two; excessive prosecution of the Hammonds a local rancher who would not give their land to the BLM. The constitutional right has been violated by a Corporation running the country. The aftermath has become an evidence gathering not a cleanup. A person was outright killed by the federal government. The occupiers have been arrested and jailed and may never see the light of day.
The following link lays out a very good description as to why we the people should be supporting the Hammonds;
Government land grabs are becoming more and more prevalent every day. There are executive agencies taking private land through regulatory acts. The federal government is seizing up more and more private land under the auspices of environmental preservation and national parks. We are even seeing the military taking private land and calling it national security. Our framers […]
Forcing a sale by any means, means “BY ANY MEANS”.
Looking at the ranchers in South eastern Oregon the key need is the Feds getting a hold of resources (gold, water, timber,uranium, etc.) The FEDS have an agenda to take all resources of the States land. In order to do so they must remove the people. The FEDS need to acquire the land that people own.
These families have been on this land for 50 to 100 plus years. To remove them the FEDS need to by law buy the property, just to make it look good. If the property owner knows the value of the land they will have a different idea than the FEDS. The FEDS have learned from Ecology groups that they need to reduce the land values thru subversive measures. These subversive measures include altering the normal environment in order to lower the land value. This will include rerouting water in order to flood land that is not normally flooded when water is captured in a normal channel of flow, like a creek, ditch or river. If the land has water sitting on it for 90 days then the land is then designated wetlands. The wetlands designation comes with a whole slew of regulation for protection. What is now affected by the wetlands designation is water quality, air quality, habitat for endangered and threatened species and buffer zones (100 foot). The human regulation regarding a wetland it depends upon the species that are found in or around the wetland.
Lets look at an example If an area becomes wet and a frog jumps into the pond or water of the wetland and the frog is on the endangered or threatened list then the wetland is now a protected area. A buffer of 100 feet is applied to the wetland and no human activity is allowed on or near the wetland in order to preserve the habitat of the frog. This applies to any bug, animal, mammal or plant. Get the picture.
Now in Oregon the FEDS rerouted water onto ranch land that flooded the land. Created big areas of wetland. The regulation put on the ranchers were oppressive. The choice of the rancher is wait it out and become broke or sell the land to the ones creating the regulations. The choice is give up and go away or struggle the rest of your life. If you struggle and oppose the FEDS and their regulations pressure is applied by threatening to fine you. The fines are exorbitant. $100,000.00 for taking a stick out of a stream impeding water flow. Or in the case of the Sacketts in Idaho $37,000.00 a day. (that is $1,100,000.00 a month million). These regulations destroy businesses in the local area, they close and go else where. The tax dollars to support schools and emergency response are reduced. Harassment by the FEDS is ongoing. They continually remind the land owners they cannot touch the water to improve their property. Meeting are held on a regular basis to talk about flood control. This is a way for them to get a pulse of the community. It is also away to pit neighbor against neighbor.
In the case of Canyon City Oregon where a fire was so large and happened so fast no one had time to protect their property. One land owner lost hundreds of thousands of dollars in timber due to the BLM and US Forest Service policies regarding forest practices. These policies have been being implemented and adjusted for years. Many of these practices started during the listing of the Spotted Owl threatened species act in 1990. These practices have destroyed jobs and families.
With the ludicrous practices of the US Forest Service, fuel for fires are not allowed to be harvested (cleaned up). An example is the beetle kill in Montana. The Mountain Pine Beetle infestation has killed of thousands of trees. As the tree dies it dries out and turns red, the needles do not fall immediately. As most know pine needles catch fire with just a spark. The forest service will not allow local companies to go in and harvest the pine beetle invested trees. These trees are just waiting to be fuel for lightning strike fires. The same in Oregon the dead fall is fuel for fires. The policy of the US Forest Service is to leave dead fall for the natural habitat of bugs, small animals and natural decomposition. All of this in the name of “HABITAT”.
In Canyon City Oregon the fire took place in August 2013. The fire completely destroyed homes and businesses. There are people who know that the forest practices is why the fire became such a big inferno. Fires do happen naturally and it has been good to destroy diseases of the forest and in the past forests would come back healthier. In this case it will NOT.
The land will no longer will be able to handle water. During snow melt and heavy rains water will flow down the mountains and hills unimpeded. Brush and grass help slow water so that it will be absorbed and seep into the ground nourishing the root growth of remaining trees and seedlings for nourishment of regrowth. Grasses and moss are natural filters to clean water and cooling for the streams below. The water in this area will erode silt and fill in the creeks and rivers below. This will create flooding problems. Many will not recover from the fire devastation let alone a flood disaster.
Logging in the area is now gone. There are no trees to harvest. Just like Spotted Owl logging was cut off. Families that relied resource harvesting will have to leave and seek a living elsewhere. The FEDs will cut off all access to the forest that was burned out. The reason will be to allow the “HABITAT” to recover. The flow of money into every organization will be immense just to study the recovery. Any residence left will be not be allowed to sneeze for fear that it will disturb the regrowth of “HABITAT”. What type of habitat will it be? Name any animal, plant or bug that was is or could grow and live will be the “HABITAT”.
If they do anything to help rivers and creeks flow better they will be met with gun-toting Eco-cops to stop them. If they plant anything to help with erosion they will be met with more gun-toting Eco-cops. After all the law is the law.
Why do the FEDS get to regulate us out of our sovereign rights to the land and protecting the land?
After the Kyoto agreement in Japan 1997 and entered into force 2005, it became a free for all for countries to mitigate their polluting ways. It also was a green light for Non-government agencies to run amuck developing the laws and policies for legal methods to take land. This included coercion, regulating even forcing fines on land owners that might be interested in selling their land for the purpose of conservation. Each time a policy or law was questioned, within weeks the policy would be changed, in order to support the green cause for the purpose of buying (taking) land. During this time countries around the world worked with the US to mitigate land for wetlands. Putting conserved land into a wetlands bank in order to mitigate polluting companies in say China, Japan and other countries. This was to meet the Kyoto Protocol.
The Non-government organizations include but not limited to The Nature Conservancy, Trout Unlimited, Ducks Unlimited, American Rivers, Sierra Club, The Audubon, National Wildlife Fund, Friends of the Earth, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. This list is endless. The money involved is enormous.
Every one of these groups that work to conserve habitat use unimaginable amounts of money. They all receive money from donors. Donors that actually believe that you and I cannot and do not know how to take care of the land. NON-profits also receive money from the Federal Government in the form of GRANTS. Lets say they want to buy a piece of property for conservation, they receive a grant for $200,000.00 for the acquisition of a piece of property. They have four years to buy the property after being awarded the grant. During the four years they have all administrative costs are theirs up to and equal the amount of the grant (federal government money). Air quality, water quality, endangered species, EPA, BLM, Army Corps. of Engineers, Fish and Wildlife, Environmental & Natural Resources, and many others that ACT like minor players. The money flows unabated.
The need to conserve land (habitat) to reduce green house gas emissions for the purpose of saving the planet. Since the US is a developed country is a primary country to reduce these emissions. In order to do this land must be conserved to lessen human destruction of natural habitat of flora and fauna. These groups and organizations fully believe that man(human) is the destructor of the planet and must be removed from the land in order to leave the land pristine. For this purpose Wetland Banks were set up in the US in order to offset CO2 emissions in other countries.
Japan, China, India, South Korea, and many other smaller countries were allowed to purchase wetlands credits in the US. The money went into land purchased that were put into the banks. This was called Carbon Credits. The pollution continues in these countries but the land continues to be taken in the US.
In the case of Oregon it is just plain land taking for profit with the offset of carbon credits for the purchasing country. This allows them (other country) to be in compliance with the Agenda 21 (2030).
Mitigation Banking: http://www.epa.gov/cwa-404/mitigation-banking-factsheet
Very revealing history that lays out the history of our constitution and how We The People should view our president and government and know our rights.
After viewing this video I have a whole perspective on who really should be president.
KrisAnne Hall – America’s British Heritage
This is a great article that describes taking land in the name of endangered species, how water quality is part of it and how water can be used MISSUSED. Very Very informative