It obviously is never about the fish or the frog or tortoise or the bears or the plankton or the bug. For years people of the earth have been saying that animals and mammals are going endangered or extinct. People have been lied to. Believing that we need to throw lots of money into conservation. People have been lied to and made to believe that only organized conservation will save all species. They have been brainwashed into believing man is the biggest threat to animal (flora and fauna) on the planet. Well they are half right. The big money people who want it all to themselves are the culprit. The world leaders have gone so far as state that “animals” should have the same rights as people. The world court has had lawsuit after lawsuit representing animals because tier environment and right to live is in jeopardy. Yet, now the biggest threat to animals is currently taking place and the people of the world are being lied to.
Well I think all of these people who jumped on board with the movement have been lied to and have lied to themselves (these are called deniers). The people who voted for taxes in Vancouver, Washington for conservation have been bilked.
All the billions and billions of dollars spent and all land taken for conservation of species is for NOT. The whole Pacific Ocean and ALL of the sea life are DEAD. The Fukushima melt down has been leaking for FIVE years. The rivers have very little fish returning . The species that depend on the fish are starving. The eco system that was so precious to save, enough so they had to take people’s land for conservation, is now in a death spiral due to radiation leaking into the pacific ocean.
The nuclear plume in the ocean has reached the west coast of the America. The whole of Japan is one big nuclear disaster. Radiation in Pacific Ocean picture released by NOAA
Look where it got you now there are no more fish in the Pacific Ocean.
I will call the people who are still thumping the Climate Change mantra stupid and insolent. Wake up people the Pacific Ocean fish DIE OFF is not, I repeat, DIE OFF , is not due to “el Nino” or “el Nina” or any other climate change option you want to believe. The DIE off is happening because no one will stop the biggest disaster in world history, of our time. The spent fuel rods are still 5 years later leaking into the pacific ocean.
And they said Nuclear Energy was green. WHAT IS SO GREEN ABOUT IT NOW?
Forcing a sale by any means, means “BY ANY MEANS”.
Looking at the ranchers in South eastern Oregon the key need is the Feds getting a hold of resources (gold, water, timber,uranium, etc.) The FEDS have an agenda to take all resources of the States land. In order to do so they must remove the people. The FEDS need to acquire the land that people own.
These families have been on this land for 50 to 100 plus years. To remove them the FEDS need to by law buy the property, just to make it look good. If the property owner knows the value of the land they will have a different idea than the FEDS. The FEDS have learned from Ecology groups that they need to reduce the land values thru subversive measures. These subversive measures include altering the normal environment in order to lower the land value. This will include rerouting water in order to flood land that is not normally flooded when water is captured in a normal channel of flow, like a creek, ditch or river. If the land has water sitting on it for 90 days then the land is then designated wetlands. The wetlands designation comes with a whole slew of regulation for protection. What is now affected by the wetlands designation is water quality, air quality, habitat for endangered and threatened species and buffer zones (100 foot). The human regulation regarding a wetland it depends upon the species that are found in or around the wetland.
Lets look at an example If an area becomes wet and a frog jumps into the pond or water of the wetland and the frog is on the endangered or threatened list then the wetland is now a protected area. A buffer of 100 feet is applied to the wetland and no human activity is allowed on or near the wetland in order to preserve the habitat of the frog. This applies to any bug, animal, mammal or plant. Get the picture.
Now in Oregon the FEDS rerouted water onto ranch land that flooded the land. Created big areas of wetland. The regulation put on the ranchers were oppressive. The choice of the rancher is wait it out and become broke or sell the land to the ones creating the regulations. The choice is give up and go away or struggle the rest of your life. If you struggle and oppose the FEDS and their regulations pressure is applied by threatening to fine you. The fines are exorbitant. $100,000.00 for taking a stick out of a stream impeding water flow. Or in the case of the Sacketts in Idaho $37,000.00 a day. (that is $1,100,000.00 a month million). These regulations destroy businesses in the local area, they close and go else where. The tax dollars to support schools and emergency response are reduced. Harassment by the FEDS is ongoing. They continually remind the land owners they cannot touch the water to improve their property. Meeting are held on a regular basis to talk about flood control. This is a way for them to get a pulse of the community. It is also away to pit neighbor against neighbor.
In the case of Canyon City Oregon where a fire was so large and happened so fast no one had time to protect their property. One land owner lost hundreds of thousands of dollars in timber due to the BLM and US Forest Service policies regarding forest practices. These policies have been being implemented and adjusted for years. Many of these practices started during the listing of the Spotted Owl threatened species act in 1990. These practices have destroyed jobs and families.
With the ludicrous practices of the US Forest Service, fuel for fires are not allowed to be harvested (cleaned up). An example is the beetle kill in Montana. The Mountain Pine Beetle infestation has killed of thousands of trees. As the tree dies it dries out and turns red, the needles do not fall immediately. As most know pine needles catch fire with just a spark. The forest service will not allow local companies to go in and harvest the pine beetle invested trees. These trees are just waiting to be fuel for lightning strike fires. The same in Oregon the dead fall is fuel for fires. The policy of the US Forest Service is to leave dead fall for the natural habitat of bugs, small animals and natural decomposition. All of this in the name of “HABITAT”.
In Canyon City Oregon the fire took place in August 2013. The fire completely destroyed homes and businesses. There are people who know that the forest practices is why the fire became such a big inferno. Fires do happen naturally and it has been good to destroy diseases of the forest and in the past forests would come back healthier. In this case it will NOT.
The land will no longer will be able to handle water. During snow melt and heavy rains water will flow down the mountains and hills unimpeded. Brush and grass help slow water so that it will be absorbed and seep into the ground nourishing the root growth of remaining trees and seedlings for nourishment of regrowth. Grasses and moss are natural filters to clean water and cooling for the streams below. The water in this area will erode silt and fill in the creeks and rivers below. This will create flooding problems. Many will not recover from the fire devastation let alone a flood disaster.
Logging in the area is now gone. There are no trees to harvest. Just like Spotted Owl logging was cut off. Families that relied resource harvesting will have to leave and seek a living elsewhere. The FEDs will cut off all access to the forest that was burned out. The reason will be to allow the “HABITAT” to recover. The flow of money into every organization will be immense just to study the recovery. Any residence left will be not be allowed to sneeze for fear that it will disturb the regrowth of “HABITAT”. What type of habitat will it be? Name any animal, plant or bug that was is or could grow and live will be the “HABITAT”.
If they do anything to help rivers and creeks flow better they will be met with gun-toting Eco-cops to stop them. If they plant anything to help with erosion they will be met with more gun-toting Eco-cops. After all the law is the law.
Why do the FEDS get to regulate us out of our sovereign rights to the land and protecting the land?
After the Kyoto agreement in Japan 1997 and entered into force 2005, it became a free for all for countries to mitigate their polluting ways. It also was a green light for Non-government agencies to run amuck developing the laws and policies for legal methods to take land. This included coercion, regulating even forcing fines on land owners that might be interested in selling their land for the purpose of conservation. Each time a policy or law was questioned, within weeks the policy would be changed, in order to support the green cause for the purpose of buying (taking) land. During this time countries around the world worked with the US to mitigate land for wetlands. Putting conserved land into a wetlands bank in order to mitigate polluting companies in say China, Japan and other countries. This was to meet the Kyoto Protocol.
The Non-government organizations include but not limited to The Nature Conservancy, Trout Unlimited, Ducks Unlimited, American Rivers, Sierra Club, The Audubon, National Wildlife Fund, Friends of the Earth, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. This list is endless. The money involved is enormous.
Every one of these groups that work to conserve habitat use unimaginable amounts of money. They all receive money from donors. Donors that actually believe that you and I cannot and do not know how to take care of the land. NON-profits also receive money from the Federal Government in the form of GRANTS. Lets say they want to buy a piece of property for conservation, they receive a grant for $200,000.00 for the acquisition of a piece of property. They have four years to buy the property after being awarded the grant. During the four years they have all administrative costs are theirs up to and equal the amount of the grant (federal government money). Air quality, water quality, endangered species, EPA, BLM, Army Corps. of Engineers, Fish and Wildlife, Environmental & Natural Resources, and many others that ACT like minor players. The money flows unabated.
The need to conserve land (habitat) to reduce green house gas emissions for the purpose of saving the planet. Since the US is a developed country is a primary country to reduce these emissions. In order to do this land must be conserved to lessen human destruction of natural habitat of flora and fauna. These groups and organizations fully believe that man(human) is the destructor of the planet and must be removed from the land in order to leave the land pristine. For this purpose Wetland Banks were set up in the US in order to offset CO2 emissions in other countries.
Japan, China, India, South Korea, and many other smaller countries were allowed to purchase wetlands credits in the US. The money went into land purchased that were put into the banks. This was called Carbon Credits. The pollution continues in these countries but the land continues to be taken in the US.
In the case of Oregon it is just plain land taking for profit with the offset of carbon credits for the purchasing country. This allows them (other country) to be in compliance with the Agenda 21 (2030).
We were talking the other day about what is taking place on the coastal regions of Oregon and Washington. The timber companies have decide to spray the newly logged off hillsides with pesticides (similar to “Roundup”). You know the one!? Most Americans use it to kill off weeds on the sidewalks, driveways and patios. Yes that Roundup.
So of course the reasoning is that the underbrush that grows up, after a hillside is logged off, is competing too much with newly planted trees and so must be hindered. Brush like blackberries, grass, foxglove, young alder saplings, and other low growth. These pesticides (herbicides) don’t just fall from the delivery system they use they get picked up and drift with the wind. The intention is to spray on a newly planted hillside, BUT…. Where do you think it drifts to and what other animal and plant life get sprayed as well.
The elk herds in southwest Washington have hoof rot. Wonder what is causing that? Oregon and Washington are big states for the save the Salmon bunch and lots and lots of money has already been spent to help increase the salmon runs in all of the creeks and rivers that flow to the ocean. Gee, I wonder if more money will be spent to save the salmon for another 40 or 50 years. Looks like they will have to because now they have to study the salmon to see if they are being dwarfed, mutated and not spawning, or unable to. And now the fish and wildlife people get to get money to study the elk to see why the hoof rot is happening. They will find mutations and other health problems with the wildlife.
What ever happened to, its illegal to spray dangerous herbicides and pesticides. With over-spray or wind drift, what is happening with the water supply? The water supply feeds water for human consumption as well as wildlife including bear, raccoon, squirrel, chipmunk, deer, elk, lynx, bobcat, mouse, salamander, frogs, bald eagle, osprey, salmon, trout, beaver, moles, voles, the spotted owl (for gods sake), banana slug, snail, blue heron, woodpecker, Murrelet, Peregrine falcon, turtle, goose, crane, Blue jay, hummingbirds, red tail hawk, goshawks, harrier hawk, grouse, wolves, coyote, weasel, mink, Bees, ferret plover, rabbit and many numerous insects. Look at this list and then compare it to the endangered species list and you will find quite a few on there. The eagle is a protected specie which carries an enormous fine but do they think of what the spray is doing to them? What about the precious wetland?
When did it become okay to spray something more dangerous than DDT???
This is happening internationally also! What will other countries do about this?
I am adding some information about roundup and what it is doing to people and wildlife. The effects on the forage or food source for wildlife DOES have adverse affects. The timber companies spraying t5his toxic chemical in order to allow trees to grow better and stronger is a myth. Please read the following articles about the dangers of glysophate (Roundup).
Why do you think that the EPA, Water Quality, Save the fish people, Save the bird people are all on board with water rights and property rights issue. Because that is where the control of the people is. If they have complete control of every drop of water in the nation let alone the world they can control the people. The Agenda is to move people into the cities or more populated areas so they can control how we treat nature there is a move on to get areas of our nation into, ” no walking zones”. These zones are currently called Biospheres. This way the natural environment can thrive (in theory). But it will be about the rich can go do their thing on the no walk zones. This is not a conspiracy theory this is real. Read the whole Agenda 21 booklet, then educate yourself on the UN and their plans.
Every one is kidding themselves if they think that the ecology groups under the guise of Water quality, EPA, Endangered species act, Air Quality and other governmental organizations are here to help the people live better lives. These organizations have been hijacked by the same people who are taking land from the people. Just look at the Cliven Bundy situation. Don’t just read the story on him, look behind the scenes and see what is happening around him and 100 miles away. Follow the money behind those scenes and you will see what is really happening.
I have actually seen the plan of an ecology group, their plan is to buy up 200 acres both side of the Snake River from mouth to headwaters. They are patient and exacting. They have a plan and they WILL carry out their plan no matter what it takes. They are not ethical about it. They are not honest about it. They, being the NGO’s that work to change nature laws to benefit them.
This is NOT a Right or Left issue. This is not a Carter, Bush, Reagan, Nixon, Clinton or Obama issue. This is a much larger issue. The different administrations have just implemented little pieces. The latest administration is young enough and have been indoctrinated enough, to believe that the save the planet issue is the most important. In order to implement a UN Agenda to the United States there is a constitution standing in the way. So what better to do indoctrinate a generation into thinking that the world leaders know better know how to save the planet, so wipe away the constitution to implement world laws.
Tax the dickens out of urban areas and it will empty out. Fine people for building on their own property and people will not buy land. Regulate what can be grown on your own land and people become leery. Make the land so expensive and no one but the big boys(girls) can buy.
There is a plan and children your children are being indoctrinated into it. The uninformed are being indoctrinated. The ignorant are being indoctrinated. The American people are being kept busy trying to keep a roof over their heads and food on the table are being indoctrinated.
Cities across the nation are doing the sustainable thing to indoctrinate the people into a plan that will control them for the greater good. WHO’S GREATER GOOD? is the question everyone should be asking. Why did the landslide take place in Washington state and kill people? Why is the Katrina money not rebuilding New Orleans? Why are people still waiting on the money for the devastation of Hurricane Sandy.
How many people know what the 100 year flood plain is? Do you know where your hundred year flood plain boundaries are? FEMA utilizes these zones to identify the flood plain for flood insurance. The boundaries are also used to identify wetlands.
Wetlands are not always defined by an individual interpretation of a wet area that stays wet year round. It can be defined by an area that has standing water for a time. It can be defined by an area that is flooded during a freshet. The floodplain defined by a sudden flood can be used in the 100 year floodplain definition.
One category of benefits includes goods and services that a proposed action or activity One category of benefits includes goods and services that a proposed action or activity generates. Although potentially easier to identify than other categories, these benefits may or may not be easy to measure or ascribe value. In terms of protecting waters, an example benefit might be supporting fish and shellfish populations in downstream waters as well as protecting the waters themselves. Ponds, streams, and wetlands provide habitat for a robust and diverse assemblage of organisms that are necessary to support the whole aquatic community structure and ecological function. Some associated attributes may have market value (such as the fish themselves) and some may have non-market value (such as biodiversity).
Benefits also include costs avoided. Costs avoided represent what you don’t have to pay because of the action you have taken. For example, floodplain preservation prevents costly damage from frequent flooding. Although dams and levees are built to control potential flooding,altering the natural hydro-logic regime contributes to the potential for flooding. Waters affected by this proposed rule store water and slow down its movement across the landscape. When these systems no longer perform this function, the potential losses from flooding may increase.
You will notice that emphasis has been put on market value and cost. This cost is not only to EPA for permitting but also monitoring of the public once a permit is given. Then of course with Agenda-21 the American people will have to have their profits monitored by EPA as well.
In the case of wetlands the 100 floodplain can change dramatically depending upon what organization you are talking to. If it is an NGO then the zone has one set of boundaries. If you are talking to big corporation that can throw money at development the boundaries look very different. If you talk to FEMA (a GO) the boundaries look again very different. Each set of boundaries will be set to support each organizations objective.
An example of this type of boundary definition comes into play in many land sales or building permits. One example is a private citizen has a perfect piece of property. A big corporation comes in and talks big money to said private citizen. Private citizen chooses not to sell the land. All of a sudden the land is worthless, because it has been defined as wetlands. It wasn’t defined before but now that private ownership is enjoyed by said owner. The land is now wetlands and wetlands should be protected, after all. This now means private owner cannot develop his/her own land. The corporation now swoops in and says, we’ll take that worthless wetland off your hands. Land owner throws up his hands and says okay we’ll cut our losses. Said corporation buys low and then sells high or proceeds to develop the land any way they want.
The corporation then buys into a wetlands bank, to mitigate the wetlands they are now developing. In some cases these corporations eminent domain the property. Just compensation is paid to the owner, sometimes.
In all cases of wetlands the EPA will be the monitoring agency, they will be the defining agency and will be the controlling agency.
EPA is taking every drop of water under EPA control and Army Corps of Engineer control. This is no more prevalent than the latest EPA move to define a puddle as something that should be defined as wetlands. It also is prevalent in the rain tax in Maryland and Illinois.